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# Sheku Bayoh: The Inquiry –Episode three
- URL: https://www.theferret.scot/sheku-bayoh-the-inquiry-episode-three-cup-of-tea/
- Published: 2023-01-31T07:51:12.000Z
- Updated: 2025-10-17T19:39:13.000Z
- Author: Ferret Journalists
- Tags: Podcast, #davesutton2gmail-com, Society, de-escalation, Police Scotland, police witness, positional asphyxia, restraint, Sheku Bayoh, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2025-10-15 12:08, #older_metered

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*I said his name and I said: “how can I help you?” and at the same time I touched the silent alarm on the wall. I knew then other officers would be coming and that they would pass over the air that the alarm had been sounded in the custody unit.*

*I’m trying to buy time, trying to keep everything calm. I said to him: “Can I make you a cup of tea or coffee?”. And he asked for a cup of tea.*

In this episode we take a step back and hear about how one [police expert witness](https://www.shekubayohinquiry.scot/hearings?keys=Joanne+Caffrey&op=submit&ha-witness-type%5B%5D=0&ha-hearing-block=0&ha-witness-name%5B%5D=0&ref=theferret.scot) told the [inquiry](https://www.theferret.scot/what-we-know-from-the-sheku-bayoh-inquiry/) about the benefits she had seen in using de-escalation techniques. And we hear evidence about how how else police officers attending Hayfield Road could have responded that day.

We also hear from witnesses who saw up to six officers restraining Sheku and listen to [evidence](https://www.shekubayohinquiry.scot/hearings/evidence-martin-graves-28112022-am?ref=theferret.scot) about the dangers of restraint and its potential impact on someone’s breathing.

#### Sheku Bayoh: The Inquiry

**This podcast was written and produced by Karin Goodwin**

**Research by Tomiwa Folorunso**

**Recording, editing & sound design by Halina Rifai**

**Original music by Alan Bryden**

Listen to all the evidence from the [Sheku Bayoh Inquiry](https://www.shekubayohinquiry.scot/?ref=theferret.scot), or find out how to get a ticket to attend in person at www.shekubayohinquiry.scot

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